a) i dont see any hate b) theyre not bad releases, they just had some things to work on. personally, i love k-12, its just the drums from michael keenan's songs shouldve been not used or replaced or toned down bc they were in EVERY SONG (and in after school too ive noticed). after school was great lyrically and vocally but not production wise (except the bakery) - dont get me wrong i loved the production, it was just so bland, basic and the same throughout the whole song (notebook or brain & heart for example) but some was actually cool (test me, glued, numbers). the outtakes definitely wouldve boosted my pov on after school (history?? lost & found?? absorb?? they were just incredible)